Swisher and Galloway were discussing the decline of television in the wake of Kimmel\u2019s suspension from ABC when the conversation turned to podcasters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\n\u201cI think, look, we got to just burn those ships and move on. That\u2019s the thing, because this is how Trump lives. He lives in the 80s in his head, so CBS, ABC, and NBC are the be-all and end-all,\u201d Swisher argued.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u201cBut they\u2019re not. They\u2019re not influential anymore. We should just move along and make our stuff. We should grow and conservative outlets should grow, whatever it happens to be. I was, although I think Tucker Carlson\u2019s really\u2013 something\u2019s going on with him. When he\u2019s articulated, it was absolutely right,\u201d Swisher added.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n
\u201cWe both have our issues with Tucker<\/a>. I think Tucker right now is the most likely nominee for the Republican nomination. I think he has been very good lately,\u201d Galloway replied \u2014 referring to Carlson\u2019s warning against any kind of free speech crackdown following Kirk\u2019s murder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u201cWell, he\u2019s consistent at least,\u201d Swisher agreed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\u201cAbout housing, for young people, he comes across as intellectually honest. He comes across as courageous, not afraid to go against his own party. And I realize I\u2019m talking our own book here,\u201d Galloway continued, adding:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
\nOur downloads are up 10 percent in the last 30 days. And guess what? Everyone from\u00a0Megyn Kelly\u00a0to\u00a0Joe Rogan, you\u2019re going to see a lot, increasingly people turn to podcasts like\u00a0The Daily<\/em>, because\u00a0The New York Times<\/em>\u00a0is fearless and does the work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
You\u2019re just going to see media that is not scared of\u00a0Brendan Carr,\u00a0or can\u2019t be controlled by\u00a0Brendan Carr.<\/a>\u00a0Boom, because people are really interested in what\u2019s going on, and they like fearless. You know, I\u2019ll give you an example,\u00a0Don Lemon.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n
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