Erika Kirk, the CEO of Turning Point USA and widow of assassinated conservative activistย Charlie Kirk, erupted on Wednesday over the conspiracy theories โ many of them championed by former TPUSA activistย Candace Owensย โ proliferating about her husbandโs death.
During a one-on-one with Fox News host Harris Faulkner in the closing minutes of Wednesdayโs episode of Outnumbered, Faulkner ripped into those profiting off conspiracy theories.
After Kirk implored the public to keep the site of her husbandโs grave private for the sake of her family, Faulkner asked: โWhat are theyโthese conspiracy theoristsโtaking from you right now?โ
Kirk replied:
Nothing. But I will tell you what they are doing. It reminds me so much of Chapter Six in the book of Nehemiah. He is building a wall, and the townspeople are at the base of that hill saying, โNehemiah!โ calling him all these names, saying all these things: โCome on down!โ Every single time, he had the same messageโfour times in a row: โI cannot come down. I am busy building.โ That is how I feel.
I do not have time to address the noise. My silence does not mean that I am complacent. My silence does not mean that somehow Turning Point USAโand the handpicked staff who loved my husband and whom my husband lovedโare somehow in on it. We are busy building.
And you know what I thought? I thought these people are human. We are all grieving in our own way. They are trying to find the answer to something that happened that was so evil. They are trying so hard. And I get that. Weโre doing the same. Anytime we hear a lead or anything at all, we send it to the authorities: Please dig into this. No rock will be left unturned. I want justice for my husband, for myself, for my familyโmore than anyone else out there.
So for me, you want to keep telling me to come down while weโre buildingโI donโt have time for that. But hereโs my breaking point: Come after me, call me namesโI donโt care. Call me what you want, go down that rabbit holeโwhatever. But when you go after my family, my Turning Point USA family, my Charlie Kirk Show familyโwhen you go after the people that I loveโand youโre making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode attacking the people that I love because you claim theyโre somehow in on this? No.
โYou know, I have to say it: Iโve never seen you like this,โ Faulkner observed.
โNo,โ Kirk responded. โThis is righteous anger because this is not okay. Itโs not healthy. This is a mind virus. Yes, I believe in our judicial system. I do. We have a hell of a team working on thisโexcuse my French. But this is not okay.โ
โSo you want to put these people back in the box where theyโve been creeping from?โ Faulkner followed up.
โI donโt care what box youโre in,โ Kirk said. โBut just know that your words are very powerfulโand we are human. My team are not machines and theyโre not robots. They are human. We have more death threats on our team and our side than I have ever seen. I have kidnapping threats. You name itโwe have it.
โAnd my poor team is exhausted. Every time they bring this back up, what are we supposed to doโrelive that trauma all over again? They watched my husband get murdered. I have no idea how I would have reacted if I was there that day, and thank the good Lord that I did not have to see that happen. But my teamโtheyโre rocked to the core. So why, every single day, do they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed, hyperanalyzed?โ
She later concluded the segment by saying she has seen the โimpactโ the conspiracy theories have had on โthe people that I love.โ
โAnd if people think that I was just going to wilt awayโIโm not going to sit in a corner, cry, and be in the fetal position. This is a duty to my husband, and itโs an absolute honor, and I will never back down. And so my message to them is: stop. Stop!โ
Earlier this month, Charlie Kirk Showย producerย Blake Neffย announced that Kirkโs friends will beย holding an eventย to refute Owensโs incendiary claims. Owens has turned down an invitation to attend it in person.
Owens has a reputation for spreading widely debunked conspiracy theories, includingย once stakingย her entire professional reputation on the claim that the First Lady of France,ย Brigitte Macron,ย is a man. Owens has also suggested that Israel was somehow connected to Charlie Kirkโs death.
Kirk, who founded the pro-Trump student group Turning Point USA, was shot and killed at a Utah university in September, and his alleged assassin is currently awaiting trial on murder charges. Neff called Owensโs claims โeither lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total, reckless disregard for the truth,โ and added, โI would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlieโs murder.โ
He concluded by saying Turning Point will host a live stream to further debunk Owensโs conspiracies and invited her to participate.
โWe wanted to use this segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important. For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our Freedom inbox. It has been nonstop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show. You probably already know what Iโm talking about, which shows just how ubiquitous it has been,โ Neffย began.
Read his full statement below:
Ever since Charlieโs murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. She has made them against some of Charlieโs closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees. She has suggested thatย Michael McCoy, Charlieโs chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie.
She has suggested Michael is not his real name. It isโI have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikeyโs wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didnโt, by the way. She doesnโt work on campus events.
Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote โinside job.โ She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followedย Erica Kirkย around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. She has suggested Charlieโs security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims thatย Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns. She has suggested that TPUSA Faith-affiliated pastors, like theologianย Frank Turek, who weโll have on in a moment, and Pastorย Rob McCoy, are part of a military quote โinfiltrationโ of Turning Point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are.
Even if not everyone has been named specifically, though, Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlieโs death by repeatedly saying he was, quote, โbetrayed by,โ quote, โeveryone.โ She has said Charlieโs murder, quote, โhad to be approved by Charlieโs friends,โ and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for quote โknowing the truth.โ She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at Turning Point, adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true. Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year. He personally reviewed and signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar. We have never missed a 990 deadline.
Candace has made other, stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah, and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels. At one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valleyโs soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could go on. There is always something new coming up, and none of it ever pans out. Because from the start, there has been nothing there.
The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total, reckless disregard for the truth, so that Candace can manipulate and string along an audience of people who donโt realize they are being played. Instead of being able to grieve properly after one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying. I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlieโs murder. And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be. What our friends have had to endure is not funny and itโs not insignificant. It is evil. I have seen it.
For months, we have received hundreds, thousands, I suspect, of emails and calls asking us to respond. People have wanted us to invite Candace on the show. But for a long time, our approach was to say nothing. We did that for several reasons. First, we thought that her prevarications were so absurd that nobody would believe them. We shouldnโt have to answer questions about secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force planes. That sort of thing is justโitโs beneath contempt to respond to. Lastly, we didnโt respond because Charlie always viewed Candace as a friend, and we were holding out hope that she would return that friendship and stop what she was doing.
But a week from now itโs going to be three months since Charlieโs murder. Candace has not changed her behavior. She has continued to spread falsehoods about Charlieโs friends, and she continues to concoct new ones about new people. Sheโs using these falsehoods to enrich herself while dividing the conservative movement at an absolutely critical time for this country. And far too often, we here have heard from ordinary people, people who loved Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in return. These people have expressed the worry that we are staying silent out of cowardice or as some sort of tacit admission that some of the attacks are true. Neither is the case. Our silence has never been, and it will never be, equal to complacency or approval.
Still, we decided Charlie would not allow this to go on. Charlie was not a coward. Charlie was a fighter. Charlie would not allow someone to spread lies about the people closest to him with impunity. And he would feel ashamed if other people were stepping up to defend his friends while he never did so himself. Candace has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court.
So hereโs what is going to happen. In the near future, there will be a livestream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlieโs family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that livestream at our studio here in Phoenix. At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court.
Our motivation for doing this is not out of any obligation to Candace. It is about honoring Charlie. We feel a deep responsibility to protect his legacy, his work, and the truth. I feel that. I owe Charlie everything in my life. I feel it immensely. And that is why we feel compelled to speak clearly and openly now. Weโll have more on this in the near future.